Is it possible to fire with rubber bullets from regular handgun? Where to buy such bullets in Canada?
I am considering obtaining the firearms license in Canada.
I would like to buy real handgun, but apart real lead bullets I'd like to have a choice to fire with rubber bullets or tear gas bullets.
My questions are:
1. Any problems I can have with a regular gun (like Glock 17) if it's used with rubber bullets?
2. Where to buy rubber bullets / tear gas bullets in Canada? Or US? Let's say 9mm.
Everybody, thanks for your answers !
As I understand, rubber/tear gas is not too popular in North America. It is very popular in Russia where I came from. Probably the main reason of that is that real guns are not available for regular citizens...
I've owned tear gas pistol (very effective for street dogs) and a revolver that can shoot rubber bullets as well.
Why would I want it in Canada? Well, let's say:
1. Just to have a choice to switch ammo to non-lethal when I clearly see that the person attacking me is not armed with a gun (guns are quite rare in Canada).
2. Because I am used to this type of ammo and don't feel so much responsible.
3. To my understanding, laws in Canada are very strict and 'frowned upon' the use of firearms for self-defense and especially killing somebody. You are supposed to call 911 and police will protect you. Am I right? So I assume that rubber-bulleting an intruder will get me in less troubles with a law.
Also you can't carry handguns in Canada.
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Rubber bullets probably won’t cycle the slide but I know where you can find them the only problem is that you are going to have to load them yourself the link will take you right there
they are in 9mm .44 .45
If you go with a revolver instead of the autoloader, rubber bullets won’t be a problem. You can load your own, although I’d hate to clean up afterwards. There may be some novelty load someplace for tear gas, but I’ve never heard of it. The idea is pretty silly. There’s no way that tiny an amount would be useful even to irritate a cockroach. If you’re buying a handgun for self-protection, get used to this: you should never fire it unless you want to put a hole in your target. There is no justification for shooting a person except those that justify lethal force, so if that’s your intent for "non-lethal" projectiles, forget it. See about a taser or a baseball bat.
I don’t believe tear-gas rounds exist. There are pepper(spray) rounds but they are only available to law enforcement. Do you just want this for non-lethal self defense or what are you looking for?
A handgun is a lethal weapon that should only be used when there is a clear and present threat to your life or that of your loved ones or other innocents.
Using a handgun for any other purpose in a defensive situation is foolhearty.
It should not be used to threaten, although the power of just being armed and demonstrating that fact has gotten me out of situations twice when acosted by men who intended to do me harm while taking my property.
To attempt to use a handgun to scare or wound will get you killed dead. If you do not have the will to take a life that’s OK, but do not reach for the gun and do not plan on doing so.
Rubber bullets are actually lethal, just like blanks are lethal. Just type "Northern Ireland rubber bullets" and do your own research.
An industrial police type pepper spray or equivilent or a Taser sounds more like what you need. Someone may make tear gas bullets but their effectiveness in a handgun caliber is dubious.
There is such a thing as ’shot shells’ which are like tiny little shotgun shells and while they will injure they will not inflict lethal wounds. They are used for pests like coyotes and I also use them in a revolver if I go hiking during snake season.
I am not aware of ay rubber bullets for handguns. They make them for 12 gauge shot guns but I believe they are law enforcement only.
They do make a barrel that fits into standard handguns, glocks, sigs that shoot what is called simunitions.
We use these for training purposes so we can use our actua duty weapons. They fire a colored soap pellet similar to a paintball gun.
I am not sure if this is available to non law enforcement either but it would probably be more available than rubber rounds.
Goodluck and Godspeed
Like stated above, a revolver will be the way to go not an autoloader. You may have to load yourself, which would make using it a risky affair if you are not an expert.
Most non-lethal rounds are meant to be fired from shotguns.
A company does manufacture a "pepper-ball" round filled with capsicum powder to be fired from .68 caliber paintball guns.
http://www.pepperball.com/home_a.asp
This will allow you to get a semi-auto pistol firing "tear-gas" rounds without the legal restriction of a true firearm. the legality of the ammunition may be a problem.
With all "non-lethal" ammunition one must remember that it can still kill if used improperly. I remember a story where a woman was killed by a rubber bullet by being shot in the eye.
A Glock 17 (or any automatic for that matter) probably won’t cycle anything but real bullets. You have to ask yourself why you want rubber bullets? Guns are not toys and even a rubber bullet will injure, maim or kill someone accidentally. Ever heard of liability?
Rubber bullets are available in 12 gauge for law enforcement only. They are used in prisons as a last resort riot control method. I can’t think of any other application for them right now. I have no doubt that rubber bullets are available in other calibers and work best out of revolvers, but I can’t think of any use for them.
In the Sixties some outfit sold .22 autos and revolvers that shot ‘tear gas’ pellets. They were quite useless and the reloads were hard to find without buying a new tear gas pistol. If you didn’t shoot someone in the face (which was not recommended for reasons of liability) the tear gas didn’t work. Often the ‘tear gas’ would blow right back in your own face! You couldn’t fire them indoors or inside a car without contaminating the air conditioning system.
Get pepper spray instead. That’s more dependable.
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With semi auto pistols, rounds loaded with rubber bullets in all probabilities will NOT cycle the action. A weapon is a defensive tool of last resort, and should never to pointed at someone to scare them, or just to sting them. It is a means to stop agression, and often kills the person. There is no place for rubber bullets in a defense handgun, or even for target practice for that matter.
Try the link to midway for rubber bullets. Revolvers are better for this a 9mm will not cycle. You can also buy plastic and wooden bullets for practice in areas where regular bullets would travel too far. If you are looking for self-defense, you need to be realistic and realize that ‘just wounding, bouncing rubber bullets, etc." off of someone is not going to stop a determined attacker. If you want a non-lethal means of proteciton go with OC pepper spray.
Why would you want too.
Rubber bulleting an intruder could get you badly hurt, or even killed. The only rubber bullets available to civilians are for target practice only, and are powered by primers ONLY! (No Powder propellant) Use of such will only serve to piss off an attacker. Rubber bullets, as well as plastic practice loads sometimes available as surplus, will not cycle the actions of semi-auto pistols, and must be fired as glorified single-actions.
The media struck again this week with another asinine episode of the fact-farcical Law&Order;SVU, in which a female detective supposedly takes down a knife-wielding perpetrator with "rubber bullet rounds, which visibly cycled her Glock 17. TOTAL B.S! ( Almost as great as a previous episode where a .38 revolver AND ITS’ LEAD LOADS were magnetized by brief exposure to a MRI medical scanner!)
Used as target ammo, with proper post-practice cleaning, rubber bullets should cause no problems with a Glock semi-auto.
In the U.S., at least, I know of NO place where a civilian can purchase tear-gas rounds for any regular pistol, semi-auto or revolver, or whether any such even exist. There is tear gas ammo for shotguns, but only the military and po-lice have access to such.
As to your problems with Canadian Law, I would seriously consider moving to the U.S., to some really FREE part, out West or down South, where we don’t have to put up with such nonsense and law-abiding citizens go armed as is their Constitutional Right.